Montana III 9.5m no pressure on bar

[Stephane]

Thank you.
The wind was quite low for sure and what you describe is definetly something to consider. The kite was kind of flat too. I'll try with more wind and keep you posted.

Thank you
Stephane

[Thirdcoast Kiteman]

Is the kite inflating and pressurizing properly? Are the dirt-outs open? It sort of sounds like the wing is not inflating to it's full width. Until the kite fully inflates, the backlines will be somewhat slack, and control is difficult. Sometimes you have to jerk on the lines as the kite goes up to help it inflate and pressurize all the cells...particularly if the wind isn't strong, you will have to jerk and tug until the kite gets into the air higher up and can fully inflate.

Good luck!

[Stephane]

Hi Alex,
I was finally able to compare the lines. They are all the same length. Which is good news but does not help with my problem.
I've attached the lines to a fixed point and played with the different possible adjustments.
What I noticed is the following [depowerstrap was always released]: (apologies as I do not master all the powerkite terminology)
- When central lines are attached to the knot closest to the kite: to have tpressure on the four lines, the bar is in between the two black "balls";
- When central lines are attached to the middle knot: to have tpressure on the four lines, the bar is almost pulled to its maximumum (1 inch from the chicken loop)
- When central lines are attached to the knot closest to the bar: backlines are loose even when bar is pulled to the max. In that position, pulling the bar on either side will not affect the kite.

I do not know if that helps.

Last thing to consider is the wind speed. I cannot tell you the speed of the wind when I was trying it but if in low wind condition the kite reacts has described in previous post, then this might be part of the explanation.
Last, and even if I have triple checked how the lines where going through the pulleys this is maybe something to have a closer look at.

Thank you for your support Alex.

Stephane

[Alex]

Is there a chance I have set up the lines unapropriately on the bridle?

Never say never! Usually bar and lines are ready attached to the kite. If this was not the case, please doublecheck with the manual, how it should looks like.
Maybe the wind was really to low. Do you know how much it was?
I'm waiting for the result of comparing the flying lines, if there is everything okay we'll think about the next step.

Best Regards

Alex

[Stephane]

Thank you Alex for your prompt response. I believe I did release the depowerstrap the last time I tried. The result was better but the backlines are still very loose and I had to twist the bar completely to have little effect on the kite. I will check the length of the lines and will keep you posted.
Is there a chance I have set up the lines unapropriately on the bridle?
thx
Stephane

[Alex]

Hi Stephane,

the Montana should fly well out of the box.
Please check the length of the flying lines.
The two backlines should be offer the same overall length of the Y-setup frontlines. It could be the the frontlines lengthen a bit by getting under tesnion for a while.
But it often looks like that the backlines are a bit to loos, especially when you pull the depoweradjuster in.
Releasing the depowerstrap will be the first issue to check out.
The pressure on the bar itself will be allways be low unless you are flying unhooked. The power is generated on the centerline that is attached to you harness.

Let me know about what you find out.

Best Regards
Alex

[Stephane]

Hi - I have a Montana III 9.5 for a while but was never able to fly it properly and always felt not pressure on the bar due to what I thought was the wind condition (too light) but I tried again last week and I have noticed that the rear lines are very loose without any tension on the bar and kite. As a result, I have to pull with my hand on the line to make it turns .
I went through all the settings again and again and cannot find where I got it wrong. I am thinking of reducing the length of the back lines but find it not normal for a kite that is ready-to-fly.
If someone can tell/show me how to set up the lines so I can use my Montana as it should be I would appreciate.
Thank you

BTW - I am flying a Beamer 3 5m for some times without any issues