Bridle line plan for new Beamer 5.0

[Kite-lover]

Hoi Alex,
I kept the standard settings and shortened only the A-lines with 9mm and, . . .wow! Faster flight, stable but responsive, no overflying in the corners, power as required!!! On hard sand I could almost keep up with a Yakuza of the same size (the Yakuza-flyer could hardly believe it), on soft sand the Yaky is the better. Nice kite the Beamer 5! I'm again happy with it! It will stay in my quiver.

Regards,

Johan

[Kite-lover]

Hi Alex,
The progressive knots do work, but I think the AOA is too negative now! It flys a little bit faster, but it does not stop in the corner and has a tendency to collapse there. The confort of a stable entry level kite is gone. So, I will change the bridle with thinner lines and reduce the correction that I have made with knots, by half. I'll keep you informed.

Johan

[Alex]

Hi,

I'ld try the settings first and when you have found a good one I would consider to change the whole bridle to thinner lines.

Best Regards

Alex

[Kite-lover]

OK Alex, I will try some settings, and eventualy use thin line for a part of the bridle.

Hope for wind and free time now.

Regards

[Alex]

At least there are a lot of possibilities to try out.

And yes, it is possible to use a thinner line to improve performance.
I think you should also try out your progressiv setting that you've mentioned. But I can't give you exact messurments for that. But if you make sure that your kite have the messurments thats on the plan, the kite should fly right.

All other tunings are a try and error thing.

Best Regards

Alex

[Kite-lover]

Hey Alex, Jerry,

I finaly flew the Beamer 5 during the holiday and:

The knots did not make a difference (not that I noticed). How much do I have to shorten the bridle line A?

Is a knot in line A sufficient? The wing section is altered that way!
Maybee it is better to shorten progressively: line A with (for ex.) 3cm and line B with 2cm, and line C with 1 cm.?

What do I have to do with the bridle at the wingtips? Does it need to have a washout (angle of attack more negative)?

In comparison with the Little Devils, the Beamer has more bridle lines and on top of that, they are twice so thick.
Would it help (to achieve a faster flight) if I change the last part of the bridle and use thin line?

best regards,

Johan

[Alex]

Hi,

there is one easy way to shorten the lines for a test. Just get a meter of line that is similar in thickness like the bridlelines you want to shorten.
Make smal pieces of may 2 or 3cm of this line - maybe with a stopper knot at there ends.
Tie this pieces into the A-bridlelines by a larks head knot. This will shorten the lines by maybe 1-2cm.

The length of the bridlelines in reality is allways a bit different to the messuremnts you get by the bridlesheet.
Usually the lines are cutted under a weight. The weight for Beamers and Crossfires lines is 2kg. So you'll messure less than that on the kite.
BUT ... after a while of flying it, there are to possibilitys.

A: the lines (an especially A and B lines) getting streched and therfore longer
B: (hard to explain) the lines getting shorter, because the internal braiding breaks appart Don't know how this work exactly but it happens.

But 0,5cm is a reasonable diifernce/tolerance, that shouldn't cause such a big problem.

Alex

[Kite-lover]

Hello guys,
I used the Beamer II of 5 sq.m. four times in the buggy now. On two occasions I was very happy with it, but lately I was not. If the soil is not hard packed I can not get the speed to make it work well. (flying an S-pattern did not help)
A: On some occasions the kite stays immobile in the sky and even comes down again (rearward). (there was a steady wind) I have to work the kite to get it flying again. maybe I can make it faster by changing the bridle.
B: if the kite collapses in the sky, (due to not enough air pressure), it is always the right tip that collapses first. maybe the bridle is not symmetrical.
C: Both wingtips find it difficult to fill with air. I got wrinkles in the foil, unless the kite reaches full speed. maybe the bridle was not as it should?

So, 3 times maybe!
I’ v got the bridle plan now and started to un-knot it. But how do I messure the length of the different parts? If I hook one end (loop) onto a nail, and stretch it to its maximal length, I got a different reading when pulling hard. The A-line in the middle should be 121 cm. It seems to be 120.5 and I can stretch it until 121.5!

I read in another topic that, shortening the A-lines in the bridle with 1 cm. would make the kite flying faster. How do I obtain that cm shorter? By leaving the loops as they are and just making a simple knot?

What shall I do

Best regards,

Johan

[Kite-lover]

Hi Johan,

I send you the plan to your mail account.
It would be nice, if you could explain your problem here.

Best Regards

Alex

Hi, thanks for the plan, but I will explain my issue later, I have some urgent Xmas-shopping to do.

Happy Xmas to you all.

Johan

[Alex]

Hi Johan,

I send you the plan to your mail account.
It would be nice, if you could explain your problem here.

Best Regards

Alex

[antman]

what was your problem with you brake lines??

[Kite-lover]

Hello Jerry,

Would you send a bridle plan for the Beamer II of 5 sqm to me too?
I'm not fully happy with the flight characteristics of the kite. Maybee it can be fixed.

Best regards,

Johan

minne.johan@skynet.be

[Jerry_H]

Email sent with plan attached.

Jerry

[gurkan]

pardon , my problem is about the 2 braking bridles lines .


thanks for your helps

[gurkan]

hi

i have buy the beamer 5m² friday , i have removed the 2 bridle lines of the kite .

someone can post me the plan for put the lines on the kite .

gurkan@tiscali.fr